a last thought before midnight ... was reading an obit that mentioned an aristocrat named moncreiffe of that ilk. i've always wondered what that meant, so i looked it up:
""Of that Ilk" means "of that same place", i.e. it is a contraction of "Moncreiffe of Moncreiffe" (a common mistake is to assume it means "with the same name" or "of the same type")."
good old wiki-peeps :-)
so, not that it works with polish-jewish peasants, but my original ancestor from friedland might have been called 'friedland of that ilk'!
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